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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:08 pm 
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HA. Got an email from my parents this morning to say that my niece has COVID. There aren't all that many cases in New Zealand, so that's a bit unlucky, but the fact that my rabidly anti-vax brother has been sharing a house with her, is now in isolation for at least 14 days, and probably has it too (he's getting tested tomorrow) is utterly hilarious to me.

Seriously though, fingers crossed. Bro's wife lost her dad from cancer a couple of months back, and her mom was hospitalized with covid last week (I haven't heard how she's doing), and wife has MS, so I hope she's OK at least. I'm pretty sure she had the sense to get vaxxed so should be OK.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:06 am 
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Mr LaT and I got our Covid booster and flu jabs yesterday (one in each arm).

The booster was Moderna, the first two were AZ. Neither of us had any side effects at all with AZ, but today both of our arms are really sore (if I rolled onto it in the night it woke me up) and we're both feeling distinctly ropey. I can see lots of napping happening today in Chez LaT.

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They're going to start rolling out boosters here soon. But I got my ass kicked so hard by the second dose that I really don't know if I want another one!

MY first two shots were Moderna, so I'm contemplating maybe getting the J&J one for the booster.

How are the cases over there, LaT? I hear that you're getting another wave over there right now and things are starting to close down again.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:32 pm 
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90%+ of the people in ICU are unvaccinated, and everyone's is starting to get seriously pissed off. Honestly, maybe it's their choice, but then I think we need to start sending the bills to people who choose not to get vaccinated and then end up in hospital.

Just booked my and RogerR's boosters. He's being very brave because he is mega-needlephobic, and felt quite crappy after both his previous. I had zero-nada-zilch side effects for either, but now I'm worried that I can't be three-times lucky.

Still can't be bothered to get a flu jab though.

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Our hospitals are full of the unvaccinated as well. To top it off, they're being their usual asshole American selves, demanding horse dewormer and other bullshit witch doctor cures from the hospital staff. My SIL is a nurse, and she's about ready to quit after dealing with these asshats. She says that every single workday she has to summon the strength to not flatten someone. She said she's really starting to hate absolutely everyone, and now when the patients start some shit, she's like, "Here's your AMA form if you don't like it here". Of course they never sign the forms.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:00 am 
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How are the cases over there, LaT? I hear that you're getting another wave over there right now and things are starting to close down again.
There are a few places in Europe (Austria springs to mind) that are going into lock-down again, no talk of that for the UK though. Although there is a stealthy movement towards 'you won't be getting in anywhere without a Covid passort', so one way or another the unvaccinated are being marginalised. Personally I'd be going for the painting red crosses on their front doors and hanging a bell around their necks.

As JessicaRabbit said most of the cases that end up as serious or in intensive care are from the unvaccinated. I'm with whoever said just leave them on a gurney and let them see if their 'human rights' fix the disease for them.

I read yesterday that there's a radical mutation emerged in South Africa and that's being closely monitored.

Anyhoo, 36 hours after the booster I feel fine (arm still a wee bit sore, but nothing of note) , having had a day snoozing and doing bugger all. Mr LaT hasn't emerged from his pit yet so we'll see how he is when he gets up.

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I got my booster 2 weeks ago. Here it is first-come, first-served, so the first two times I left because the lines were so long. I ended up having to go at about 6:45 AM to wait in line. There were still about 50 people. I got out of there about 4 hours later. At least it is done. My husband was able to get his a few months ago because he got Sinovac the first time and was vaccinated earlier. They reduced the number of vaccine centers for a while once most adults were vaccinated. But, now that boosters are available to most people and kids are being vaccinated, I think our municipality should have more centers available.

Our little country is one of the most vaccinated and boosted on earth. We still have positive tests, but the deaths and hospitalizations have declined significantly. With things pretty open, an increase in cases was to be expected. We are still at much lower case numbers than the last waves. Deaths are in the low double-digits per day, when they were over 200 when things were at there worst. The whole antivax mindset hasn't gotten much traction here. They really are a lunatic fringe. I guess that is why the lines to get vaccines are so long.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:34 pm 
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Well, that new variant sure has everyone in a lather. New Zealand was working on opening up again after being the most locked down country on earth, and literally thousands of people had just booked flights to go home - and now all this shit is blowing up. Jesus Christ.

I watched a video last night of a couple who were travelling in South America when the world shut down in 2020. He was Australian, she was Czech, and they had to split up because both the Czech Republic and Australia were only allowing citizens back in to the country. They spent months applying for an exemption for her to join him in Australia (where they lived), she finally got it after nine months. She booked a flight, she travelled to the city to fly. It got cancelled 24 hours out. They found another flight with one seat left, but it went Prague-Amsterdam-Singapore-Brisbane. 72 hours with layovers. Holy crap, that would suck. She gets to Amsterdam, and because her negative covid test was in Czech and the staff in Amsterdam couldn't read it, they declined it and told her she couldn't fly. Her mother had to call around and find a translator, and set up a Skype call in the airport so he could translate it for her. She makes the plane with minutes to spare. She gets to Singapore, gets to spend most of the day in an isolation area with no food, and finally makes it to Australia, where she has to hotel quarantine for two weeks. The last flight is from Brisbane to Sydney to meet him, and when he goes to meet her at the gate, she's not there. He's waiting for over an hour and is gutted because he thinks she missed the plane. But because she was an international traveller and not a domestic one, they'd made her fill out some extra forms before she could deplane, and then escorted her out a different way. When they finally got to see each other, I literally cried my eyes out. What a drama. I can't even imagine what that was like. And that's just one story, there were millions like that.

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^The new variant has me worried as well - our cases here are pretty much all Delta, and it’s definitely caused some issues with hospital capacity and higher case loads, since Delta is more transmissible. I did read this morning that there is some evidence - very limited since this variant is so new, but some evidence - that while Omicron is more transmissible, it causes milder symptoms. This would be a good thing, since people wouldn’t get as sick, but its transmissiblity could cause it to overtake the other strains. Fingers crossed the initial data turns out to be true.

They’re giving out boosters here to select groups - my parents will be six months past their second shot tomorrow, so they’ll be going to get their boosters ASAP. My husband will be eligible December 17, since he got double AZ for his first two doses. He’ll be getting either Pfizer or Moderna for his booster. I think everyone else will be eligible for boosters in the new year (they’ll open up eligiblility in groups based on age like they did for the initial shots).

They’ve also finally approved vaccines for kids 5-11 here. Transmission in schools took a huge jump as soon as the weather got colder and they had to keep the kids inside more often, and I think that’s driving some breakthrough cases in parents. Fingers crossed we can get the kids all vaccinated and hopefully get this thing under control. Cases are rising again and we’re starting a new wave. I think this will be wave 5. Sigh.

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I think the new variant is already here in NY. My area (downstate) isn't too bad, but upstate - around Albany - is getting hammered. They were fine until a week ago, and now all the counties up there have the highest positive percentages in the state. A few counties out in western NY are seeing new caseloads, but not like the Albany area. We had spectacularly more natural infections earlier on in the pandemic, and our vaccination rates are lower, so maybe there is something to natural infection holding up well against this new variant, and vaccine immunity not so much. They are about out of hospital space there as well, although from what I read it's still largely the unvaccinated jamming the hospitals. People go to the hospital for ridiculous stuff in the US, and everyone here is rather unhealthy on average, so I can see the new variant, even if milder, causing a shit-ton of trouble. It's quite likely to bring our healthcare system to its knees.


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